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		<title>My Review of Windows DVD Maker in Windows Vista</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the other day I needed to create a DVD on my new Windows Vista installed Toshiba laptop. I had taken some video with my awesome new Panasonic Lumix FZ7 digital camera, and I wanted to publish it to a DVD to watch on my television. My Lumix FZ7 camera takes great video, but it&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
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<p>So the other day I needed to create a DVD on my new Windows Vista installed Toshiba laptop. I had taken some video with my <a href="http://www.i-love-technology.com/2007/04/05/best-digital-camera-ive-owned-panasonic-dmc-fz7/">awesome new Panasonic Lumix FZ7 digital camera</a>, and I wanted to publish it to a DVD to watch on my television. My Lumix FZ7 camera takes great video, but it&#8217;s in the Quicktime (.mov) format. I know how I would have gotten this done on my old Windows XP system &#8211; now I need to figure out how (and if) I can get it done in Windows Vista.</p>
<p>I noticed on my shiny new start menu that my new Toshiba Laptop came with something called &#8220;Toshiba DVD Authoring&#8221; and I thought I&#8217;d check that out. I know Windows XP used to come with Windows Movie Maker, I wanted not just to edit a movie, but to publish it to a DVD. The included Toshiba DVD Authoring software that came with the laptop turned out to be Ulead Video Studio with a little &#8220;creation wizard&#8221;. I fired that up and was able to import the quicktime .mov files just fine. I chose a custom menu, added some text &#8211; point, click, burn, and 20 odd minutes later I had a DVD. I popped it in my home DVD player and the menu and videos were great, but the audio was completely static and white noise for everything. It turns out that Ulead could import the quicktime video files from the Panasonic FZ7 digital camera just fine, but couldn&#8217;t decode the audio tracks at all.</p>
<p>Then I remembered when I popped in the blank DVD just before I burned it in Ulead Video Studio, I got one of those &#8220;what do you want to do&#8221; Windows prompts&#8230;only this time there was an option I hadn&#8217;t seen before called &#8220;Windows DVD Maker&#8221;. Ok &#8211; cool, Windows Vista has a new tool to create and author DVD&#8217;s with &#8211; but will it work? Here&#8217;s what I found&#8230;</p>
<h2>Problem #1 with Windows DVD Maker in Windows Vista</h2>
<p>You can only import Windows Media (wmv, asf), MPEG, or AVI video files. I guess I should have figured this, but don&#8217;t plan on sucking in any quicktime .mov, DivX, xVid, or other non-supported types of file formats into Windows DVD Maker. If your video files aren&#8217;t already in one of these formats, you&#8217;ll have to convert them (like I did) using software&#8230;.I usually use <a href="http://www.imtoo.com">IMToo</a>. If you prefer a hand-holding easy to follow picture based tutorial, <a href="http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/167/59/">read here about how to convert your DivX, xVid, and WMV file to DVD using Windows DVD Maker in Windows Vista at DVD-Guides.com</a>.</p>
<h2>Problem #2 with Windows DVD Maker in Windows Vista</h2>
<p>You <b>can&#8217;t edit anything</b>. You can drag in video files, picture files, or mp3 files for background music &#8211; but that&#8217;s it. You can change some fonts and colors for the menus and nothing more. I was more than a little pissed off that I couldn&#8217;t even add title text to the imported video clips, or add any fade-in or fade-out transitions. If you just drag in video clips and choose a menu and burn the dvd, the end result will be a really choppy dvd that jumps directly from one clip to the next.</p>
<h2>Problem #3 with Windows DVD Maker in Windows Vista</h2>
<p>If you want your video files edited (in advance) to import into Windows DVD Maker, your only choice (using software that comes with Vista) is Windows Movie Maker. You have to add all of your transitions and title text there, and then export that movie, and then exit Windows Movie Maker. Then, you fire up Windows DVD Maker, import the movie you just created, choose your menu, and burn &#8211; but you&#8217;re going to have to wait to Windows DVD Maker to &#8220;render&#8221; your DVD. What this means is &#8211; you&#8217;re export of the edited movie in Windows Movie Maker could take 30 minutes+, and then your &#8220;rendering&#8221; of the movie before burn in Windows DVD Maker could take 30 minutes+, possibly doubling the time it takes to get the finished playable DVD burned and ready for your home entertainment dvd player, and that&#8217;s only if you <b>&#8220;render your movie in DVD quality&#8221;</b>. If you choose to render your movie in any of the new Hi-def HD high definition options, like 1080i, 1080p, or 780p, you could be waiting 3+ hours for that movie to export. Windows DVD Maker <b>could have been a killer </b>, but it&#8217;s pretty apparent that they didn&#8217;t have the time to integrate Movie Maker and DVD Maker before Vista launched. This makes Apple and OS X look pretty good, and Microsoft look pretty stupid.</p>
<p>&lt;h2&gt;Problem #4 with Windows DVD Maker in Windows Vista&lt;/h2&gt;<br />
It seems only to be for making and authoring DVD&#8217;s to play as video or a video-slideshow. I didn&#8217;t find a single option for creating a DVD data disc, not even for archival or backup (a big mistake in my opinion). If you <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1812297/posts">read this article about 30 days with Windows Vista over at Free Republic</a>, the have this to say:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>My DVD burner technically worked in 32-bit Vista, but Vista uses a new file system on burned CDs and DVD which prevents them from being used in even Windows XP computers. There&#8217;s a mode that is supposed to make these discs compatible, but it didn’t work for us.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tested this yet, but if I can&#8217;t make a data DVD and be able to open it up on all my XP and Linux boxes to use &#8211; I am going to be really, really pissed off!!</p>
<h2>Problem #5 with Windows DVD Maker in Windows Vista</h2>
<p>Last night I wanted to create a new dvd picture slideshow. I added 250 jpg pictures from our digital camera, choose a nice animated dvd menu, chose the &#8220;slideshow&#8221; option, and added 3 mp3 files for background music. The dvd failed to preview or burn. I removed the mp3 files and preview worked just fine. I added just one mp3 for background music and it failed to preview or burn again. I began to play around with different mp3 files to see what would and wouldn&#8217;t work and found that some mp3 files worked fine, and some wouldn&#8217;t work at all. They were all good mp3 file that played without problems in Windows Media Player. Was Windows Vista trying to not allow me to use certain files it thought I had no license for? I don&#8217;t know, but I can tell you that while figuring out which mp3 files would and wouldn&#8217;t work &#8211; I did get the Windows DVD Maker to just outright crash and close (without any error at all) several times. So much for bulletproof stable Vista software.</p>
<p>Some people would have you believe that every little issue you have is because of Vista&#8217;s evil new DRM, but others <a href="http://thevistaforums.com/lofiversion/index.php/t8475.html">like some of the posters to this topic over at Vista Forums</a> believe that DRM in Vista is not a problem at all.</p>
<h2>What I actually did like about Windows DVD Maker</h2>
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<li>If you don&#8217;t have to edit your video clips &#8211; it&#8217;s fast and easy to use</li>
<li>The included (animated) library of menus to use for your dvd are killer, much better than what Ulead had</li>
<li>It seemed to render my DVD pretty quick</li>
<li>You can create a DVD slideshow with pictures and background music pretty fast as well</li>
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<h2>What Other People are Saying about Windows DVD Maker in Windows Vista</h2>
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<li>Christopher Null at Yahoo! Tech <a href="http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/2931">Windows DVD Maker is <b>pretty useless</b></a></li>
<li>Erik has problems trying to <a href="http://help.wugnet.com/vista/DVD-Maker-work-mpg-files-ftopict44507.html#215207">import mpg files into Windows DVD Maker</a>&#8230;</li>
<li>Geo and Lon are both trying to figure out <a href="http://help.wugnet.com/vista/multiple-slideshows-dvd-maker-ftopict44991.html#215423">how to create multiple slideshows on the same dvd using Windows DVD Maker</a>&#8230;</li>
<li>&#8220;New to Vista&#8221; is wants to <a href="http://help.wugnet.com/vista/copying-DVDs-Vista-ftopict45284.html#215491">Make a Copy of a DVD using Windows DVD Maker in Vista</a>&#8230;</li>
<li>And Bob has <a href="http://help.wugnet.com/vista/Problems-Vista-DVD-Maker-burning-playback-ftopict44709.html#215537">Problems with Vista DVD Maker Burning and Playback on set top TV boxes</a>&#8230;</li>
<li>If you like your kool-aid straight from the source, you can <a href="http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/">read the official Microsoft Windows Vista Blog</a></li>
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		<title>Is DRM really limiting in Windows Vista?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s a lot of discussion about Digital Rights Managment or DRM in windows Vista.? I just came accross this article over at ZDNet that discusses whether or not it&#8217;s limiting? (drm).? So the author has been running Vista for over a week, and reports that he&#8217;s able to view and play both DRM&#8217;d and non-DRM&#8217;d [...]]]></description>
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<p>There&#8217;s a lot of discussion about Digital Rights Managment or DRM in windows Vista.? I just came accross this <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=429#">article over at ZDNet</a> that discusses whether or not it&#8217;s limiting? (drm).? So the author has been running Vista for over a week, and reports that he&#8217;s able to view and play both DRM&#8217;d and non-DRM&#8217;d content in both mp3 files and DVD&#8217;s.? He also talks about the the discussion of DRM being used for gaming and it slowing down video playback performance &#8211; but no games really seem to be doing this.? The only DRM they seem to use is for copy-proof CD&#8217;s and DVD&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The thing I find surprising is that he doesn&#8217;t mention anything about the apparent driver &#8220;lockdown&#8221; of the CD/DVD drive in Vista.? I too have been testing Windows Vista on a new laptop and I had a DVD of my own video footage.? I wanted to &#8220;rip&#8221; that to the hard drive for editing.? I installed 3 different programs (that I used to use to rip video in XP) and each one generated an error saying that it &#8220;didn&#8217;t have access to the drive&#8221; (my internal DVD burner drive).</p>
<p>So sure &#8211; I can play non-DRM&#8217;d content all I want, but only certain software programs (approved by Microsoft) are able to &#8220;access&#8221; the optical drives for ripping content.? Now &#8211; that&#8217;s DRM at the hardware and driver level isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>No Alcohol or Frostwire for Windows Vista</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my objectives in reviewing Windows Vista is to determine what you can and can&#8217;t do versus previous versions &#8211; notably Windows XP. We&#8217;ve all heard of the DRM or digital rights management that Vista is supposed have built into it. Some have said it&#8217;s no problem, and others have screamed that it will [...]]]></description>
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<p>One of my objectives in reviewing Windows Vista is to determine what you can and can&#8217;t do versus previous versions &#8211; notably Windows XP. We&#8217;ve all heard of the DRM or digital rights management that Vista is supposed have built into it. Some have said it&#8217;s no problem, and others have screamed that it will take away many freedoms that we should inherently have.</p>
<p>So far I&#8217;ve tried to intstall 2 pieces of software on my new Toshiba laptop loaded with Windows Vista Home Premium that did not work at all, and I couldn&#8217;t believe the way that each behaved. The first is Alcohol 120%, a piece of software that allows you to burn CD&#8217;s and DVD&#8217;s. I use it because it&#8217;s pretty painless to burn an ISO image directly to a DVD. I&#8217;m in a cover band and we record the live shows, and I burn the video to DVD for promotional purposes. I have an ISO file that I use to burn dvd&#8217;s from when I need to create more. So &#8211; I installed Alcohol, and 80% of the way through the install my Windows Vista Premium goes to blue screen of death! Wow! I had not gotten one of those since the old Windows NT 4.0 days. It was a memory dump error. The laptop rebooted&#8230;and then as soon as I logged in &#8211; blue screen of death again! Reboot, another blue screen. Reboot safe mode, still blue screen memory dump. I ended up having to get out my Toshiba restore DVD and booting up from that &#8211; and then choosing &#8220;repair&#8221; and a restore point (just before I installed the Alcohol software) to get it working again.</p>
<p>Once I got my laptop working again, I did some google searches to try and figure out what had happenned. I saw quite a few forum posts about Alcohol not working with Windows Vista RC1, but not any about Vista Premium, or any of the versions out now. It may be that my old version just doesn&#8217;t work, and I need to install the official &#8220;Vista&#8221; version for it to work again. The problems with RC1 were supposed to be cleared up with an Alcohol official Windows Vista version. The interesting thing I found though, was that the problems with RC1 amounted to Vista having a hardware or driver &#8220;lock&#8221; on the dvd burner. Meaning, no piece of software could access the CD drive for burning cd&#8217;s or dvd&#8217;s unless they were certified by Vista as having authority to do so. This is why Alcohol had to release a new version that was Vista ready, and older versions of the software didn&#8217;t work. Is the blue screen of death just an error or glitch, or Microsoft&#8217;s blatant attempt to keep you from using software they don&#8217;t want you to? We may never know. So &#8211; the end result is that Windows Vista decides what I can burn CD&#8217;s and DVD&#8217;s with &#8211; and not me. If I&#8217;m using software that I purchased and like to get this done &#8211; if it doesn&#8217;t have a &#8220;Vista Capable&#8221; version then I&#8217;m just screwed. I hope to God that this isn&#8217;t something in the DVD burner firmware, and if I choose to install XP or Ubuntu on a dual boot &#8211; I have no problems.</p>
<p>Now &#8211; on to my second test, my attempt at installing Frostwire on Windows Vista Home Premium. Frostwire is a port of Limewire, a very popular P2P file sharing application based on Java. Looking at doing the dual boot on my laptop, I was going to download Ubuntu Edgy Eft ISO images to burn to CD using Frostwire. The software has very good legal uses for downloading &#8211; especially open source things, but 95% of what most people use Frostwire for is usually illegally downloading mp3&#8242;s and music files. So after the Alcohol experience, I figured that this ought to be interesting. I already had the latest version of Sun Java, so the install went pretty smooth. When it was finished I fired up Frostwire to see what would happen, and it tried to make network connections, and kept trying, and trying, and trying. After a few minutes, it would just timeout and say &#8220;could not make connection to the Internet, please check your network connections&#8221;. I tried both browsers, and neither would bring up any web pages. I checked email using Thunderbird, and that worked just fine. I checked my router, but since email was working I didn&#8217;t think that was an issue (which it wasn&#8217;t). All the other computers in the house had no problems with Internet connection. I opened and closed both browsers on my Vista laptop multiple times and still no web pages. Email was still working fine. All this time I had Frostwire open. I checked all the options in Frostwire, and it just would not connect to the Internet. I checked Windows Firewall and it was already set to allow Frostwire through. I didn&#8217;t have any other firewall running, and I know of no other place that could be blocking it. I did many pings on the command line to web sites, and they all came back with no packets lost. Even though I have McAfee Security Suite running with no firewall &#8211; I turned it off as well, and Frostwire still wouldn&#8217;t connect.</p>
<p>Frustrated, I tried to exit Frostwire and do other work. It hung on exit and would not shut down completely at all. Even when I tried to end the process. So I ended up having to reboot again. As soon as I did both browsers could access the Internet again. Thinking it was a glitch, I tried Frostwire again, but as soon as I did &#8211; both browsers lost Internet connectivity again, but mail delivery still worked. I did this many times, and rebooted vista many times. I didn&#8217;t find anything on the Internet about this, and in the end could only conclude that Windows Vista somehow locked down all http traffic (or certain ports maybe) when Frostwire was running. It was as if Vista said &#8220;hey you&#8217;re running Frostwire and most likely doing illegal things&#8230;screw that, we&#8217;re gonna lock you down&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, until further notice there will be no use of either Alcohol 120% or Frostwire on my Toshiba Satellite laptop with Windows Vista Home Premium.</p>
<p>*UPDATE*</p>
<p>I also installed and tried to use DVD DeCrypter. This is such a quick and easy piece of software to use. I have 4-5 dvd&#8217;s of live band footage I wanted to rip some chapters of to the hard drive quickly for editing. It would appear DVD DeCrypter &#8220;does not have authority to access the dvd drive&#8221;. WTF?? This is my laptop, my hardware, and I paid for the software that came on it. I have legitimate and legal need to rip personal video I own from a DVD to my laptop and I can&#8217;t do it with third party software I want because it isn&#8217;t &#8220;Vista authorized&#8221;? Microsoft probably calls it protection &#8211; but I say you better get some protection, because you are about to get another screw job.</p>
<h3>Please <a href="http://www.vistareview.info/xdforum/">visit our Vista Review Forums</a> for more about <a href="http://www.vistareview.info/xdforum/viewforum/Software-that-no-longer-works-in-Windows-Vista-/1/">software that doesn&#8217;t work in Windows Vista</a>!</h3>
<p>This post is from <a href="http://www.vistareview.info">Vistareview.info &#8211; we give you real Windows Vista upgrade stories</a>, so you can make an informed decision whether or not to upgrade now (or later&#8230;.or ever!).</p>
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